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  1. Matt
    August 5, 2010

    From what I have heard my league had about 150 referees NOT recertify for this past spring season here in central KY. They told most of the recertification classes to crack down on parent and coach abuse to the fullest extent. The abuse is the reason for us losing our referees. I’m a grown adult so it doesn’t bother me and when it gets out of hand, well lets just say my count so far is three coaches and one parent(who apologized over and over after the game). Most tournaments that I sign up for keeps me and the other refs busy all day long. I can also travel to closeby cities to other tournaments and have two full days of games leading me to believe it may be statewide….

    • Soccer Dad
      August 5, 2010

      That’s rough. I’d be curious what percentage of those not choosing to recertify are 20 or younger (ie kids going to college and not getting a recert) vs adults getting out. As for tournaments – I know many ARs try to keep the refs busy all day to make it worth them coming (and reducing lodging costs) Not saying there isn’t a shortage or that refs are leaving in droves in KY because of parent behavior. I just know from our assignors other reasons you may have seen what you have.

  2. Tim S
    August 6, 2010

    Mike, in our league in SoCal we have about 800 kids playing and constantly struggle to find even marginally competent center refs, esp. at U10 where we begin to call offside. We’ve instituted a no ref penalty for teams this season (each team has to supply a ref team each week), which will affect standings and playoff participation. Not sure how it will work, and believe that the same 20 guys will end up doing most of the games. While I spend most of my time coaching at U10, I am also certified as an advanced ref. Last year I had a number of U12 games w/o trained ARs making my calls, esp. offside, very difficult. Will report how it goes this year.

    • Soccer Dad
      August 6, 2010

      Tim – So are your referees overseen by a coordinator or is it just informal from the teams?

  3. Tim S
    August 10, 2010

    Mike we have a coordinator, an assistant and, this year, a sub assistant for the bigger divisions (GU10, BU10, GU12, BU12). In the past, those divisions suffered at the AR level, sometimes with completely untrained parents running the sidelines during important matches. This year the goal is to have at least someone who has had a day of training running the lines at every game. A lot of the most senior guys only want to do U14/U16 games, and don’t find U10 to be particularly challenging due to the size of the pitch and short-sided nature of the games. So it goes . . . will let you know he things work as the session progresses. First practices in a couple of weeks!

  4. rh
    August 23, 2010

    I thought there was a significant ref shortage in our area near NYC until I started reading UK youth soccer blogs. Seems that they are lucky to have an (unlicensed) older brother ref a game, and usually have one of the coaches referee. It’s tough for us to get refs, but we do, and now don’t complain about it.

  5. Steve-O
    April 11, 2011

    I am a coach administrator for AYSO region 2 in Arcadia,. CA and we constantly battle a shortage of referees, and add to that a number of poor and/ or inexperienced referees. We have had to institute a Zero-Tolerance policy on mistreatment of referess and youth referess which we use in the lower divisions. Mistreatment by parents and yes, (nelieve it or not) coaches has made retaining referees a formidable task.

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    October 7, 2012

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  7. Kevin
    December 7, 2012

    Really it depends on the area.

    In my area, it comes and goes. Some seasons it is hard getting referees enough work. Others it is impossible to fill all assignments.

    While I am sure that abuse does not help things any, I think the biggest issue is that most youth referees are teenagers who also play and are looking at it as a job to earn money.

    In reality, in terms of it being a job, refereeing sucks.

    Before you even start reffing you have to pay the USSF certification tax. And drop at least $50 on a kit. Will the leagues or the ref organizations help you with that? Ha don’t make me laugh. Oh, and that $50 kit only has one color shirt. You are supposed to have all 5 colors. In short AND long sleeve. With official socks. Several pairs actually. Can’t have a ref team where the AR has on 2-striped socks with short sleeves and the center has 3-striped with long. That would result in the A-hole state referee administrators yelling at you about professionalism.

    Add to that the act of refereeing is non-trivial. You have to know the rules and be able to apply them in a sometimes chaotic and dynamic situation. It requires judgement and confidence, is easy to mess up, and sometimes results in people yelling at you usually out of their own ignorance but occasionally deservedly because you actually screwed the pooch and made the wrong call.

    Finally, while you make decent pay if you count the time you spend actually reffing the game your pay per hour gets diluted when you consider that you are supposed to be there 30 minutes early to check the field/teams (45 minutes for tourneys), the drive time when you have game at different fields, and the dead time between your 12pm and 3pm games.

    Don’t forget that you have to squeeze your team’s game in there as well, and you can’t ref before your game as then you would be tired out.

    Yep, the issue is that reffing as a line of employment for teenagers sucks.

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